Sen. Mitch McConnell, Julie Pace

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McConnell Basks In Glow Of Kavanaugh Confirmation, Discusses Legacy

October 10, 2018 - 3:08 pm
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WASHINGTON (WCBS 880/AP) -- On the heels of the Brett Kavanaugh confirmation process, and with the midterm elections just weeks away, Associated Press Washington Bureau Chief Julie Pace sat down with Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Kentucky).

Pace talked with WCBS 880’s Steve Scott about the interview Wednesday. She said McConnell is still basking in the glow of the Kavanuagh victory.

“Senator McConnell was in a really good mood when we talked with him earlier today. You know, he sees this as his legacy – not just what he did on the Supreme Court with getting both Brett Kavanaugh and Neil Gorsuch confirmed, but more broadly, what he’s been doing with stocking the lower courts with more conservative-leaning judges. He really feels like this has made everything that he’s been through with the Trump administration; dealing with the Obama administration, worth it,” Pace said. “Again, this will be his legacy as majority leader.”

McConnell also acknowledged that Republicans have a longstanding gender gap when it comes to American women, but he stood by one key Senate woman, saying "nobody's going to beat" Lisa Murkowski of Alaska despite her opposition to Brett Kavanaugh.

McConnell took issue with President Donald Trump, who has said Alaska voters "will never forgive" Murkowski and that she'll "never recover" politically after bucking her party on Kavanaugh last week.

The GOP leader told the AP he doesn't think the acrimonious battle over confirming Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court amid sexual misconduct allegations made the gap in which Republicans trail Democrats in support among women any worse. But he didn't say that was such great news.

"I don't see how it could be much wider than it already was," he said. "We've always had that," though in general "it clearly is wider than it used to be."

On a positive note for his party, he said he expects the Kavanaugh confirmation fight and approval to provide an "adrenaline shot" of GOP enthusiasm at the polls. Heading into the November midterms, the party is defending its House and Senate majorities. Only six of the 51 Republicans in the Senate are women.

However, McConnell did entertain the idea of Democrats taking the House.

“He said if Democrats take the House and go down that road – start launching a bunch of investigations into Trump’s finances; cabinet members, that it will backfire on them. He pointed to what happened when Republicans did the same thing to Bill Clinton, and actually went even further and impeached him, and you know, Bill Clinton left office quite popular after years of investigation,” Pace said. “He drew a comparison and raised sort of an alarm for Democrats if he wanted to take that road with Trump.”

As McConnell put it: "I think it'll help the president get re-elected. This business of presidential harassment may or may not be quite the winner they think it is."

If control of Congress does split, he envisions a Republican Senate majority keeping full-throttle on confirming the president's nominees — including another Supreme Court pick if there's a vacancy on the high court. He bemoaned what he considered Democrats tying the Senate in knots with procedural votes on less controversial executive branch nominations.

"Far be it from me to complain about obstruction, I've done my share of it. But never just kind of mindless obstruction," he said.

One key nomination could be for a new attorney general if the president fires Jeff Sessions, as has been hinted, after the midterm elections.

The GOP leader said it's not that there aren't enough Republican women running, but that they don't win their elections the way Democratic women do.

"It's a great frustration," he said.

The 76-year-old McConnell, who's been in the Senate since 1985 and majority leader since 2015, said one change he's hoping to see is on the Senate's Judiciary Committee.

The all-male line-up on the Republican side drew attention during the confirmation hearings for Kavanaugh, who was accused of sexual misconduct in high school and college. He has denied the allegations.

McConnell said he's hoping to persuade more Republican women to join the committee but hasn't had much success in the past because "they just haven't been interested."

As for the accusations against Kavanaugh, he said he found Christine Blasey Ford's account of her sexual assault "convincing" but noted that there had been no corroboration.

Alaska Sen. Murkowski was the only Republican who voted against advancing Kavanaugh's nomination to a full roll call, and she voted "present" on the final tally. Trump has said Alaskans will make her pay.

However, "Nobody's going to beat her," McConnell said. He noted that Murkowski won election on write-in votes in 2010 and said, "She's about as strong as you can possibly be in Alaska."

The GOP leader also split from Trump to defend Democratic Sen. Dianne Feinstein, whom the president accused of leaking a private letter from Ford, the California professor who accused Kavanaugh of sexual assault when they were teens.

"I haven't criticized Dianne," McConnell said.

When Trump made his case against Feinstein at a rally Tuesday night, the crowd in Iowa chanted "lock her up." Feinstein has denied that she or her staff released the private letter.

However, McConnell has been highly critical of what he calls the "mob" of protesters who swarmed the Capitol confronting senators over the Kavanaugh vote.

Asked if he considered the crowd at Trump's rally also a mob, McConnell said: "I'm not interested in talking about tweets or what people may say at rallies."

McConnell declined to weigh in on a possible replacement except to say he or she would not be coming from the ranks of his slim 51-seat Senate majority. Republicans Lindsey Graham of South Carolina and John Cornyn of Texas have been among those mentioned.

"It's not going to be from our caucus, I can tell you that," he said.

He also said he had little information about special counsel Robert Mueller's probe into Russian interference in the 2016 election, but hopes it wraps up soon. "I don't know a thing," he said.

Questioned if the Senate leader should play a bigger role pushing back against Trump's more combative rhetoric on minorities and other groups at a time of steep polarization, McConnell dismissed the need for such interventions.

"It's not my job to do a routine sort of daily critique of the president's observations," he said. "I speak up when I think it's necessary."

The GOP leader downplayed the notion of a Senate that has become broken by deep partisanship and touted the accomplishments of this Congress as some of the most substantial ever.

He's expecting a "relatively lively" lame duck session after the election and did not shy away from a possible federal government shutdown over funding for Trump's border wall. He suggested it would be modest since Congress has already provided year-long funding for some 75% of federal operations.

"That episode, if it occurs, would be in the portion of the government we haven't funded," he said. "We're committed to helping the president try to get the wall funding."

McConnell is also preparing for his own re-election in 2020 and, if he is successful, staying on as GOP leader.

He said his approval rating has almost doubled since the Kavanaugh confirmation.

McConnell would not talk about President Trump’s tweets and off-script remarks.

“Mitch McConnell does not want to be asked about the president’s tweets,” Pace told Scott. “He has perfected the art form of the dodge on questions about controversial statements that the president makes. He did that repeatedly as we talked to him.”

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